[aftur] [Fwd: [Fwd: RE: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign -PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org]]
Sælir, Hér koma viðbrögð Mr. Peace 2000 við skömmum vegna málsins. Mér virðast þau lýsa algjörri vanþekkingu á efninu. Það er gott mál að Íslandssími brást vel við kvörtunum vegna þessa...spurning kannski hvað við, upplýsingatæknisamfélagið á Íslandi getum gert í því að mennta notendur...þ.e.a.s. útskýra fyrir þeim hvað svonalagað er illa séð. Einhverjar tillögur? -----Forwarded Message----- From: David S. Geirsson <andmann@andmann.eu.org> To: kristo@kriz.to Subject: [Fwd: RE: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign -PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org] Date: 02 Apr 2002 15:16:52 +0000 -----Forwarded Message----- From: Thor Magnusson <thor@peace.is> To: 'David S. Geirsson' <andmann@andmann.eu.org> Subject: RE: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign -PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org Date: 02 Apr 2002 16:09:20 +0100 Jæja Davíð minn, ungur nemur gamall temur! Lestu aftur lagasetningar um Spam post og fjarsölu og þú munt komast að því að þetta flokkast ekki undir slíkt. Þetta er ekki á nokkurn hátt auglýsingapóstur í sambandi við nein viðskipti. Skýringin er komin hvernig þú ert á listanum. Þú hefur sent til Friðar 2000 einhver email áður, og þannig farið sjálfvirkt inn í okkar kerfi. Eins og þú hefur að sjálfsögðu orðið var við notum við þennan lista mjög sparlega og ekki getur þú kvartað yfir daglegum sendingum héðan. Ef þú leggur fram kæru einhversstaðar, þá vinsamlegast sendu mér afrit. Mjög góð auglýsing fyrir okkur ef þú gerir slíkt. Með kveðju Ástþór Magnússon -----Original Message----- From: David S. Geirsson [mailto:andmann@andmann.eu.org] Sent: 02 April 2002 15:55 To: Thor Magnusson Subject: RE: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign -PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org Ég er Davíð Steinn Geirsson, eins og þú getur alveg örugglega séð neðst í bréfinu mínu. Ekki það að það komi málinu neitt við, en ég vann hjá Sólver einmitt við að sjá um þennan blessaða póstþjón ykkar. En ég er nokkuð viss á því að það að safna addressum í spamlista eftir því hver sendir manni bréf sé lögbrot á íslandi. Ég hef einmitt talað við annan mann sem fékk þetta, sem er alveg öruggt að hefur ekki haft nein samskipti við ykkur, þar sem það barst á kerfisstjórapóstfang hans. Enn og aftur vil ég ítreka það við ykkur að hætta að senda spam, því næst þegar ég fæ slíkt frá ykkur mun ég vinna í því að láta loka á ykkar internettengingar (spamsendingar eru bannaðar í AUP (Acceptable Use Policy) hjá flestum netþjónustum). Ég mun einnig leita lagalegs réttar míns varðandi kæru. On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 14:18, Thor Magnusson wrote:
Hver ert þú og hvernig hefur þú komist á okkar lista? Þú virðist hafa verið í einhverjum samskiptum við okkur áður og þannig fengið þetta. En ég hef enga hugmynd um hver þú ert?
-----Original Message----- From: David S. Geirsson [mailto:andmann@andmann.eu.org] Sent: 02 April 2002 14:40 To: info@peace.is Cc: thor@peace.is Subject: Re: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign - PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org
Ég bað aldrei um að fá þetta sent. Ef þið sendið aftur spam á mig, eða í gegnum eitthvað net sem ég stjórna, þá mun ég sjá til þess að allir sem tengjast þessari starfssemi missi nettenginguna sína fyrir misnotkun, og að póstur frá ykkur verði settur í stöðvunarlista á eins mörgum póstþjónum og hægt er. Lærið nú að hætta að spamma fólk -- þetta er ekki í fyrsta skipti sem þið gerið þetta. Er það svona voðalega flókið fyrir ykkur að safna póstföngum hjá fólki sem hefur í alvöru einhvern minnsta áhuga á þessu bulli ykkar?
On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 15:32,
imi.is wrote:
Message to: andmann@andmann.eu.org
PRESS RELEASE The following is a translation from the website of Icelandic newspaper
Morgunbladid - Easter Sunday 31 March 2002
President of Iceland urged to work for peace in the Middle East or resign from office.
Thor Magnusson, founder of Peace 2000 and former Presidential Candidate of Iceland, delivered an appeal to President of Iceland Mr. Olafur Ragnar
Grimsson, to launch an Icelandic peace initative in the Middle East or
resign from office. A press release from Peace 2000 says that when Mr. Magnusson arrived at the Presidential Residence Bessastadir, the President had just got back from a jog, but spared a few minutes to talk to
guest. The appeal of Thor Magnusson to Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, on behalf of Peace 2000, was the following:
"Now when the world stands on end because of the situation in Israel and Palestine and as our colleagues from European peace movements are trying to take up positions in the office buildings of the Palestinian Home Rule to try to prevent the murder of President Arafat by the Israeli army, I make one more attempt at imploring you to use your position as President of
Iceland for peace. Again I recall your promise when we were both Presidential candidates in 1996, that you would if elected, use the office of the President for peace activism. You underlined this many times in
television interviews with references to your earlier work as a
activist, and later reiterated this to me in personal meetings. However, now six years later you have done notthing. The time has come for you to show the solidarity that you promised to peace activism and keep your election promise!
The situation in the Middle East is rapidly developing into an all-out war that may lead the a broader conflict, even to a world war within a very short time. This transformation of events in the age of nuclear weapons poses a real threat to the future of mankind, the future of Iceland and its subjects. Those people who in good faith elected you as their President. I refuse to believe that you will continue occupying the Presidential offices and not even attempt to do anything for peace or to honor your election promises in this grave situation.
Peace 2000 partners have sent us the following news from the situation of the Palestinian town of Ramalla.
1. US made helicopters of the Israeli army hover over the city shooting at buildings and people.
2. Israeli bulldozers are being used to make way for armoured tanks in
residential areas.
3. The journeys of doctors, ambulances and aid workers have been impeded. Red Crescent workers are prevented from providing medical assistance. Israeli soldiers shoot at people on the streets of the city.
4. More than 500 civilians, including foreigners, gathered at an Israeli army barricade and ask soldiers to allow them leave the town. The soilders replied with gunshots over their heads, causing even more fear and resulting in most of the people fleeing back into the city.
5. Israeli soldiers have been holding civilians hostage and using
as
human shields. In some cases whole families and even tens of people have been isolated in one room, sometimes without food and drink, while Israeli soldiers have used their homes to take up armed positions all over
PEACE.2000.PRESS.TRANSCRIPT.-.MORGUNBLADID.31.MARCH.2002@austin.islandss the peace them the
city.
6. Some districts of Ramalla are now lacking water and food. The Israeli army has impeded transportation. The Israeli army has even used the residents' food while they have used their apartments and houses as armed hideouts.
7. Large parts of the city are without electricity. Telephone lines have been cut. Civilians are kept in isolation and increasing numbers are
gripped by fear.
8. Soldiers are walking through the streets, taking prisoners and calling upon all men between the ages of 16 and 40 to "surrender". The injured are denied medical care. There have been occurrences of executions by army
personnel.
9. The Israeli army has driven tanks over civilian automobiles and strewn them in the street in front of the owners' homes. Personal
are
destroyed in house to house "visits" and army searches.
10. Five officers in the Palestinian security forces were found dead in a building that housed Arabian newsrooms, banks and the Internet company
Palestinian Online. It is clear that these men were killed without recourse to trials or laws.
11. The Israeli minister Uzi Landau has said today that it is important to topple the Palestinian Home Rule from power. Another influential person in Israel, Eli Yishai, has today also called for increased and more extensive military action. Such actions are of course completely contrary to
possessions the
will
of the international community and will only result in dramtatically
escelating the conflict and topple the world further towards a global war.
Peace 2000 has sent a proposal to the Icelandic Foreign Ministry asking for discussions regarding the ALTHING-JERUSALEM concept. The idea is rooted in the Althing meeting at Thingvellir the year 1000, when Thorgeir Ljosvetningagodi set the scene for an almost unbroken 1000 years era of peace in Iceland. Peace 2000 has been in contact with President Arafat and the Palestinian Home Rule, together with many other parties in both Israel and Palestine, about the initiative. Those who have studied the proposal feel it is worthy of a closer examination, and that such an initative from Iceland could play a part in bringing about lasting peace in the Middle East.
In light of the support Iceland gave to the founding of the state of
Israel, and recent escelation towards an all out war in the Middle East, the reticent response of the Icelandic authorities can only be described as a total lack of responsibility. Even people in ivory towers must realize that Iceland has a duty to do all in its power to stem against the bloodbath.
We have repeatedly also sent you appeals to use your Presidential position for peace initatives in the Middle East. We have offered our assistance and support and this offer is now repeated. The undersigned is prepared to travel without delay to the Middle East as your ambassador if this would help. It is important that an Icelandic peace inititative is launched in the area before the situation develops into a wider conflict or even a
world war. We have cautioned against looking to the US for a peaceful solution. The importance of our message has been further underlines now that US President Mr. George Bush has taken a firm partial stance with
Israel and can no longer be regarded as an impartial party.
I refuse to believe that you, a former peace activist and former head of a global peace network, will continue occupying the office of the President of Iceland without attempting to do anything. That you will allow a
conflict develop that endangers the whole future of humankind without a murmur.
If you, Mr Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, do not have the courage to act for peace at this time of distress, I urge you personally, in light of your election statements in 1996, to immediately resign from your position as President of Iceland."
___
___
You have been sent this message because you have been in previous correspondance with the offices of Peace 2000.
Peace 2000, a non profit organization with associates in more than 40 countries. Peace 2000 was founded in 1995 at a town meeting set by
________________________________________________________________________ the
Icelandic Minister for the Environment with 500 people and speakers from organizations around the world, including UNESCO, World Court
and
the Chernobyl Childrens Project. Peace 2000 has been awarded for its Santa aid flights to war torn areas done under a special permission of the UN Security Council, by the Gandhi Foundation, UNESCO and the Greek Orthodox Church who decorated its founder, Icelandic Presidential Candidate Thor Magnusson with their Holy Gold Cross for humanitarian work at a ceremony in memory of Mother Theresa and Princess Diana. The work of Peace 2000 has been featured by REUTERS, CNN, ABC, CBS and others. Peace 2000 has worked together with several other charities, including the Red Cross and
Project the
Crescent. The work of Peace 2000 has been made entirely possible by
Red the
support of corporate and government sponsors including: Boeing Aeroplane Group, Alitalia, Icelandair, Air Atlanta, Air Cyprus, Royal Jordanian Airways, Cronus Airways, Parcelpost, LandRover, British Civil Aviation
Authority, Eurocontrol, Hilton, Sheraton and Intercontinental Hotels, DHL, Shell, BP, Western Union and technology companies: Verisign, GlobeNet,
Siebel, Ctirix, Trivium, Adenin and more than 300 other companies around the world. More information: www.peace2000.org. Telephone Iceland: +354 557 1000 or +354 552 2000.
-- David S. Geirsson +354 8696608 andmann@andmann.eu.org SPAMBANI.
Sendu þetta svar áfram til íslandssíma. Einnig þætti mér fróðlegt að sjá notkunnarkilmála íslandssíma ef einhver hérna veit hvar þá er að finna. Í lögum um húsgöngu- og fjarsölusamninga (2000 nr. 46 16. maí) segir svo: === snipp === Hafi neytandi ekki tilkynnt sig til skrár Hagstofu Íslands, sbr. 2. mgr., eða áskrifandi fjarskiptaþjónustu óskað eftir sérmerkingu í símaskrá í samræmi við ákvæði fjarskiptalaga og seljandi sendir honum í beinni markaðssókn tölvupóst ber að gefa neytanda kost á að veita samþykki sitt fyrir áframhaldandi notkun á þeirri fjarskiptaaðferð. Samþykki neytandi ekki sérstaklega áframhaldandi sendingar með tölvupósti eru þær framvegis óheimilar. === snipp === Ekki er með neinum hætti gefinn kostur á að samþykkja áframhaldandi sendingar sem þessar í umræddum tölvupósti og má því (ó)friður 2000 ekki nota þennan lista aftur samkvæmt lögum. Einnig efast ég um að hann (Ó)friður ástþór hafi haft fyrir því að bera listann saman við bannlista þjóðskrár eða símaskrá, enda er hann ekki þekktur fyrir að vera heiðarlegur. Samkvæmt notkunnarskilmálum gamla ISnet, landssímans og línu.net þá eru svona sendingar með öllu óheimilar og varða lokun aðgangs ef ég man rétt. /Óli On Tue, 02 Apr 2002, Kristofer Sigurdsson wrote:
Sælir,
Hér koma viðbrögð Mr. Peace 2000 við skömmum vegna málsins. Mér virðast þau lýsa algjörri vanþekkingu á efninu.
Það er gott mál að Íslandssími brást vel við kvörtunum vegna þessa...spurning kannski hvað við, upplýsingatæknisamfélagið á Íslandi getum gert í því að mennta notendur...þ.e.a.s. útskýra fyrir þeim hvað svonalagað er illa séð.
Einhverjar tillögur?
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From: David S. Geirsson <andmann@andmann.eu.org> To: kristo@kriz.to Subject: [Fwd: RE: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign -PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org] Date: 02 Apr 2002 15:16:52 +0000
-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Thor Magnusson <thor@peace.is> To: 'David S. Geirsson' <andmann@andmann.eu.org> Subject: RE: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign -PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org Date: 02 Apr 2002 16:09:20 +0100
Jæja Davíð minn, ungur nemur gamall temur!
Lestu aftur lagasetningar um Spam post og fjarsölu og þú munt komast að því að þetta flokkast ekki undir slíkt. Þetta er ekki á nokkurn hátt auglýsingapóstur í sambandi við nein viðskipti.
Skýringin er komin hvernig þú ert á listanum. Þú hefur sent til Friðar 2000 einhver email áður, og þannig farið sjálfvirkt inn í okkar kerfi. Eins og þú hefur að sjálfsögðu orðið var við notum við þennan lista mjög sparlega og ekki getur þú kvartað yfir daglegum sendingum héðan.
Ef þú leggur fram kæru einhversstaðar, þá vinsamlegast sendu mér afrit. Mjög góð auglýsing fyrir okkur ef þú gerir slíkt.
Með kveðju Ástþór Magnússon
-----Original Message----- From: David S. Geirsson [mailto:andmann@andmann.eu.org] Sent: 02 April 2002 15:55 To: Thor Magnusson Subject: RE: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign -PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org
Ég er Davíð Steinn Geirsson, eins og þú getur alveg örugglega séð neðst í bréfinu mínu. Ekki það að það komi málinu neitt við, en ég vann hjá Sólver einmitt við að sjá um þennan blessaða póstþjón ykkar. En ég er nokkuð viss á því að það að safna addressum í spamlista eftir því hver sendir manni bréf sé lögbrot á íslandi. Ég hef einmitt talað við annan mann sem fékk þetta, sem er alveg öruggt að hefur ekki haft nein samskipti við ykkur, þar sem það barst á kerfisstjórapóstfang hans. Enn og aftur vil ég ítreka það við ykkur að hætta að senda spam, því næst þegar ég fæ slíkt frá ykkur mun ég vinna í því að láta loka á ykkar internettengingar (spamsendingar eru bannaðar í AUP (Acceptable Use Policy) hjá flestum netþjónustum). Ég mun einnig leita lagalegs réttar míns varðandi kæru.
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 14:18, Thor Magnusson wrote:
Hver ert þú og hvernig hefur þú komist á okkar lista? Þú virðist hafa verið í einhverjum samskiptum við okkur áður og þannig fengið þetta. En ég hef enga hugmynd um hver þú ert?
-----Original Message----- From: David S. Geirsson [mailto:andmann@andmann.eu.org] Sent: 02 April 2002 14:40 To: info@peace.is Cc: thor@peace.is Subject: Re: President of Iceland urged to work for peace or resign - PressTranscript to: andmann@andmann.eu.org
Ég bað aldrei um að fá þetta sent. Ef þið sendið aftur spam á mig, eða í gegnum eitthvað net sem ég stjórna, þá mun ég sjá til þess að allir sem tengjast þessari starfssemi missi nettenginguna sína fyrir misnotkun, og að póstur frá ykkur verði settur í stöðvunarlista á eins mörgum póstþjónum og hægt er. Lærið nú að hætta að spamma fólk -- þetta er ekki í fyrsta skipti sem þið gerið þetta. Er það svona voðalega flókið fyrir ykkur að safna póstföngum hjá fólki sem hefur í alvöru einhvern minnsta áhuga á þessu bulli ykkar?
On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 15:32,
imi.is wrote:
Message to: andmann@andmann.eu.org
PRESS RELEASE The following is a translation from the website of Icelandic newspaper
Morgunbladid - Easter Sunday 31 March 2002
President of Iceland urged to work for peace in the Middle East or resign from office.
Thor Magnusson, founder of Peace 2000 and former Presidential Candidate of Iceland, delivered an appeal to President of Iceland Mr. Olafur Ragnar
Grimsson, to launch an Icelandic peace initative in the Middle East or
resign from office. A press release from Peace 2000 says that when Mr. Magnusson arrived at the Presidential Residence Bessastadir, the President had just got back from a jog, but spared a few minutes to talk to
guest. The appeal of Thor Magnusson to Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, on behalf of Peace 2000, was the following:
"Now when the world stands on end because of the situation in Israel and Palestine and as our colleagues from European peace movements are trying to take up positions in the office buildings of the Palestinian Home Rule to try to prevent the murder of President Arafat by the Israeli army, I make one more attempt at imploring you to use your position as President of
Iceland for peace. Again I recall your promise when we were both Presidential candidates in 1996, that you would if elected, use the office of the President for peace activism. You underlined this many times in
television interviews with references to your earlier work as a
activist, and later reiterated this to me in personal meetings. However, now six years later you have done notthing. The time has come for you to show the solidarity that you promised to peace activism and keep your election promise!
The situation in the Middle East is rapidly developing into an all-out war that may lead the a broader conflict, even to a world war within a very short time. This transformation of events in the age of nuclear weapons poses a real threat to the future of mankind, the future of Iceland and its subjects. Those people who in good faith elected you as their President. I refuse to believe that you will continue occupying the Presidential offices and not even attempt to do anything for peace or to honor your election promises in this grave situation.
Peace 2000 partners have sent us the following news from the situation of the Palestinian town of Ramalla.
1. US made helicopters of the Israeli army hover over the city shooting at buildings and people.
2. Israeli bulldozers are being used to make way for armoured tanks in
residential areas.
3. The journeys of doctors, ambulances and aid workers have been impeded. Red Crescent workers are prevented from providing medical assistance. Israeli soldiers shoot at people on the streets of the city.
4. More than 500 civilians, including foreigners, gathered at an Israeli army barricade and ask soldiers to allow them leave the town. The soilders replied with gunshots over their heads, causing even more fear and resulting in most of the people fleeing back into the city.
5. Israeli soldiers have been holding civilians hostage and using
as
human shields. In some cases whole families and even tens of people have been isolated in one room, sometimes without food and drink, while Israeli soldiers have used their homes to take up armed positions all over
PEACE.2000.PRESS.TRANSCRIPT.-.MORGUNBLADID.31.MARCH.2002@austin.islandss the peace them the
city.
6. Some districts of Ramalla are now lacking water and food. The Israeli army has impeded transportation. The Israeli army has even used the residents' food while they have used their apartments and houses as armed hideouts.
7. Large parts of the city are without electricity. Telephone lines have been cut. Civilians are kept in isolation and increasing numbers are
gripped by fear.
8. Soldiers are walking through the streets, taking prisoners and calling upon all men between the ages of 16 and 40 to "surrender". The injured are denied medical care. There have been occurrences of executions by army
personnel.
9. The Israeli army has driven tanks over civilian automobiles and strewn them in the street in front of the owners' homes. Personal possessions are destroyed in house to house "visits" and army searches.
10. Five officers in the Palestinian security forces were found dead in a building that housed Arabian newsrooms, banks and the Internet company
Palestinian Online. It is clear that these men were killed without recourse to trials or laws.
11. The Israeli minister Uzi Landau has said today that it is important to topple the Palestinian Home Rule from power. Another influential person in Israel, Eli Yishai, has today also called for increased and more extensive military action. Such actions are of course completely contrary to the will of the international community and will only result in dramtatically
escelating the conflict and topple the world further towards a global war.
Peace 2000 has sent a proposal to the Icelandic Foreign Ministry asking for discussions regarding the ALTHING-JERUSALEM concept. The idea is rooted in the Althing meeting at Thingvellir the year 1000, when Thorgeir Ljosvetningagodi set the scene for an almost unbroken 1000 years era of peace in Iceland. Peace 2000 has been in contact with President Arafat and the Palestinian Home Rule, together with many other parties in both Israel and Palestine, about the initiative. Those who have studied the proposal feel it is worthy of a closer examination, and that such an initative from Iceland could play a part in bringing about lasting peace in the Middle East.
In light of the support Iceland gave to the founding of the state of
Israel, and recent escelation towards an all out war in the Middle East, the reticent response of the Icelandic authorities can only be described as a total lack of responsibility. Even people in ivory towers must realize that Iceland has a duty to do all in its power to stem against the bloodbath.
We have repeatedly also sent you appeals to use your Presidential position for peace initatives in the Middle East. We have offered our assistance and support and this offer is now repeated. The undersigned is prepared to travel without delay to the Middle East as your ambassador if this would help. It is important that an Icelandic peace inititative is launched in the area before the situation develops into a wider conflict or even a
world war. We have cautioned against looking to the US for a peaceful solution. The importance of our message has been further underlines now that US President Mr. George Bush has taken a firm partial stance with
Israel and can no longer be regarded as an impartial party.
I refuse to believe that you, a former peace activist and former head of a global peace network, will continue occupying the office of the President of Iceland without attempting to do anything. That you will allow a
conflict develop that endangers the whole future of humankind without a murmur.
If you, Mr Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, do not have the courage to act for peace at this time of distress, I urge you personally, in light of your election statements in 1996, to immediately resign from your position as President of Iceland."
___
___
You have been sent this message because you have been in previous correspondance with the offices of Peace 2000.
Peace 2000, a non profit organization with associates in more than 40 countries. Peace 2000 was founded in 1995 at a town meeting set by
________________________________________________________________________ the
Icelandic Minister for the Environment with 500 people and speakers from organizations around the world, including UNESCO, World Court
and
the Chernobyl Childrens Project. Peace 2000 has been awarded for its Santa aid flights to war torn areas done under a special permission of the UN Security Council, by the Gandhi Foundation, UNESCO and the Greek Orthodox Church who decorated its founder, Icelandic Presidential Candidate Thor Magnusson with their Holy Gold Cross for humanitarian work at a ceremony in memory of Mother Theresa and Princess Diana. The work of Peace 2000 has been featured by REUTERS, CNN, ABC, CBS and others. Peace 2000 has worked together with several other charities, including the Red Cross and
Project the
Crescent. The work of Peace 2000 has been made entirely possible by
Red the
support of corporate and government sponsors including: Boeing Aeroplane Group, Alitalia, Icelandair, Air Atlanta, Air Cyprus, Royal Jordanian Airways, Cronus Airways, Parcelpost, LandRover, British Civil Aviation
Authority, Eurocontrol, Hilton, Sheraton and Intercontinental Hotels, DHL, Shell, BP, Western Union and technology companies: Verisign, GlobeNet,
Siebel, Ctirix, Trivium, Adenin and more than 300 other companies around the world. More information: www.peace2000.org. Telephone Iceland: +354 557 1000 or +354 552 2000.
-- David S. Geirsson +354 8696608 andmann@andmann.eu.org SPAMBANI.
_______________________________________________ Gurus mailing list Gurus@lists.isnic.is http://lists.isnic.is/mailman/listinfo/gurus
-- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet a Islandi hf. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is
On Tue, 02 Apr 2002, Olafur Osvaldsson wrote:
Í lögum um húsgöngu- og fjarsölusamninga (2000 nr. 46 16. maí) segir svo:
=== snipp === Hafi neytandi ekki tilkynnt sig til skrár Hagstofu Íslands, sbr. 2. mgr., eða áskrifandi fjarskiptaþjónustu óskað eftir sérmerkingu í símaskrá í samræmi við ákvæði fjarskiptalaga og seljandi sendir honum í beinni markaðssókn tölvupóst ber að gefa neytanda kost á að veita samþykki sitt fyrir áframhaldandi notkun á þeirri fjarskiptaaðferð. Samþykki neytandi ekki sérstaklega áframhaldandi sendingar með tölvupósti eru þær framvegis óheimilar. === snipp ===
Gallinn er, eins og Ástþór benti óbeint á að þessi lög virka ekki ef ekki er um markaðssókn, þ.e. sölustarfsemi að ræða. Hann var ekki að selja neitt og því á lagagreinin því miður ekki við. Ég benti á þetta sérstaklega á póstlista netverja þegar lögin voru til umfjöllunar á þinginu en því miður kom ekki neitt um þetta frá Félagi netverja, minnir mig fyrir óheppni (allir héldu að einhver ætlaði að gera það.. ) til þingsins. Ég benti þinginu á þetta þegar fjarskiptalögin voru til umfjöllunar en samgöngunefnd hunsaði þá þær ábendingar. Því miður. Okkur vantar betri lög til að taka á spammi.
Samkvæmt notkunnarskilmálum gamla ISnet, landssímans og línu.net þá eru svona sendingar með öllu óheimilar og varða lokun aðgangs ef ég man rétt.
Það er hinsvegar alveg rétt og þegar löggjafinn stendur sig ekki verða aðrir að taka upp þráðinn. Eins og allar netþjónustur landsins hafa gert, ef ég skil notkunarskilmála þeirra rétt. Sjálfur hef ég gefið þeim sem spamma einn (1) séns og hef ekki áður séð dæmi um að menn spammi oftar en einu sinni fyrr en nú. Aðilar eins og Vefsýn, plus.is og fleiri sem ég hef átt samskipti við áttuðu sig á "mistökunum" og ég hef ekki fengið nein vandamál´endurtekin. Ekki einu sinni Ástþór & Co. Til fróðleiks pósta ég hér síðan spamstopp hjá okkur í mars. Ég held liðirnir skýri sig að mestu sjálfir en netfangablokkin er safn af "from:" netföngum sem safnað er saman héðan og þaðan og bætt í eftir efnum og ástæðum. Netfangablokk............... 4,22% DUL relays.ordb.org ........ 5,43% DUL blacklist.spambag.org .. 1,39% DUL-listinn (ísl. hluti) ... 0,31% DUL-listinn (erl. hluti) ... 0,63% Annað DUL-block ............ 0,03% Annað opin relay ........... 1,01% Annað spamsource ........... 0,23% Lokað v.póstlista án samþ. . 2,29% Vantar lén sendanda ........ 0,01% Lén sendanda ekki til ...... 0,50% Lén send. e. skráð í DNS ... 1,88% Lén send. rangt skr. í DNS . 0,19% Óheimil áframsending (relay) 0,21% Pósthólf móttakanda lokað .. 0,04% Netfang sendanda ógilt ..... 0,02% Samtals ................... 18,40% og.. Hreinsaðar tölvuveirur .... 7,81% S.s. ! nær fimmti hver póstur er skv. þessu spam! Tæp 8% af öllum tölvupósti bera með sér tölvuveirur. Stemmir ágætlega við þessa frétt... http://news.com.com/2009-1023-864815.html?tag=st.ne.ni.gartnercomm.ni Ef menn hafa tíma til að sökkva sér í EB og spamm þá... (ég hef það ekki :) http://europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/en/media/dataprot/index.htm og http://europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/en/media/dataprot/studies/spam.htm (ársgamalt) kk, -B- -- = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - -Bjorn Davidsson- - Snerpa ehf. Computer & Networks services bjossi@snerpa.is - 354-520-4000 - Managata 6 - 400 Isafjordur - Iceland
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